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Then you finally finish the long, long first act of FFXIV Heavensward and as it turns out she's running on a half-baked ideal based on a short glimpse of the past... foolishness. Utter foolishness.

I actually found Ysayle to the the weakest of the FFXIV Heavensward trio

Her first appearance in 3.0 immediately soured my impression of her. We call her out on what happened at the Steps of Faith, and her response is "That's not what was supposed to happen..." As if! You were standing on the bridge cheering them on! They're a bunch of angry dragons; did you really think they were just gonna go after the Ishgardian power structure?!


(Admittedly I was pretty hot off the Dark Knight 30-50 line, and thus a bit drunk on truth at the time.)


Regardless, my opinion of her did not improve much over 3.0's story. She constantly chastises Estinien for immediately suggesting killing any dragon that stands in our way while making no effort to understand his point of view. Estinien doesn't either, but he makes no excuses and does not ride a high horse. Then you finally finish the long, long first act of FFXIV Heavensward and as it turns out she's running on a half-baked ideal based on a short glimpse of the past... foolishness. Utter foolishness.


Reminded me an awful lot of 2.0 Alphinaud, in a way.


That's not to say I disliked her - she was well-written and relatable - but her arrogance and lack of thought really irritated me, in addition to her refusal of responsibility for what happened at the Steps of Faith, really made me... not like her. Neutral stance.


I'd put her at ~24 years old; if she were a young teen, she'd probably be about the same height as Alphinaud and Alisae, but is significantly taller than either. She's lived though the Calamity, as can be inferred from her comments about having been from Falcon's Nest or Riversmeet.


It was probably the Ascians who explained the Echo to Ysayle. Lahabrea / Nabriales were using her as a guinea pig and pawn in 2.x, sort of, by trying to see if mortals could take on primal essences. Essentially her Shiva mode is a prototype of the Heavens' Ward "Knights of the Round" own primal forms. She probably wouldn't have tried to do what she did if she didn't know about the Echo and that it makes her immune to tempering (though that leaves the Knights of the Round as a bit of a plot hole, though I've said that countless times before).


Not sure what this "wall" is. I don't recall it ever being mentioned, but then again I rarely pick apart dialogue like that. My best guess would be that it refers to the large gate that bars the path to the Sea of Clouds from the Western Highlands, since every other way out of the area leads to Dravania. If not, then it's probably a metaphor them making it to Ishgard only to be turned away because the nobles are a bunch of stuck-up jerks, or perhaps said nobles erected a literal wall to keep refugees out. /shrug


The problem with the "time is different for dragons" shtick the dragons all use to excuse their actions is that it's very difficult to bridge the gap between their value system and that of mortals. Since they're almost functionally immortal, dragons neither forget nor forgive mortals for their sins, but their whole "sons must answer for their fathers' misdeeds" on top of it just takes them into prime jerkassery levels. I mean, it's possible to understand their point of view, but at the same time it's so fundamentally flawed and unfair that I can't really sympathize with them. A thousand-year war of attrition against the descendants of people long dead is just unnecessary, no matter how you slice it. Most of the Ishgardians don't even know why they're being attacked, or have the wool pulled over their eyes, and have no time to question it.

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